Tracie Allen
Tracie Allen was a jockey who rode on the East Coast in the 90's and I recently got her on the phone for this interview
FOTH: Where were you born and where did you grow up?
TA: I was born in Ridgewood, NJ and I grew up all over
the place, but mainly Massachusetts.
FOTH: What sort of girl were you growing up?
TA: Oh I definite tomboy. I was into horses all my life
pretty much. It's funny cause we never had horses and nobody knew why I liked
horses, I would just go to the farms and ride em and play with them, that sort
of stuff.
FOTH: Now did you know at a young age that you wanted to become a jockey?
TA: Yes. Actually when I was in 3rd grade and about 8
years old I had a little, you know those memory books that you have and I wrote
in there that I wanted to become a jockey.
FOTH: What event or events actually led to you starting to ride and stuff?
TA: I got a job at a riding stable actually and we used
to have races there me and the other workers and after that me, my mom and my
step dad we started going to the races and that is when I knew I wanted to become
a jockey. Then we ended up claiming some and we ended up getting into the business
that way. I was still in school at this time and I went to collage for 1 year
and then I said "that's it I want to become a jockey" so I found a
school in Indiana to go to, to learn how to gallop and look for injuries and
groom a horse, etc. That was in 1989.
FOTH: Looking back was becoming a jockey easier or harder than you thought it
was going to be?
TA: It was a lot of hard work, but I was so dedicated
and wanted to do it that it kinda just came along and I didn't rush it and I
took my time so I would know everything from the ground up, including hotwalking
and grooming.
FOTH: How long did you actually ride for?
TA: Well I rode 5 years, but I was hurt about half the
time. I got hurt a lot.
FOTH: Tell us what you can remember about your 1st race.
TA: It was at Rockingham Park in New Hampshire. It was great and the starter
who gave me my license to ride was tough. He was very tough and he hardly gave
out any licenses to any riders and he told me 'whatever you do I don't want
you riding some 99-1 shot on your 1st mount, ride something that is OK, but
nothing that is going to make you look stupid." And here I am on a 99-1
shot and he sees me that morning and he says "what did I tell ya"
and I said that I know the horse and know he is going to be OK cause I gallop
him every morning and in the race I only got beat by 3 lengths.
FOTH: Were you nervous at all riding for the 1st time?
TA: The whole day I was nervous until I got onto the track.
When I got on the track and the horse I was fine.
FOTH: Tell me about your 1st win. Was that at Rockingham Park or somewhere else?
TA: My 1st win was actually my 3rd mount. It was funny
the race was going long and on the turf and I had never ridden on the turf or
gone in a distance race. The same with the horse.
FOTH: Did you win by a lot or was it close?
TA: I got beat by a loose horse. (laughs) He beat me by
a 1/2 length, but I beat all the others by about 1 length.
FOTH: What was it like crossing the finish line and realizing that you just
won a race?
TA: I was in shock. When I went back to the winner's circle
I had to wave to the steward's to let them know everything was OK with the race.
FOTH: Did the jockeys get you after the race?
TA: Yes they got me with shoe polish, shaving cream, the
works. They got me good.
FOTH: Was it tough for you riding at some of these tracks being a female rider?
TA: Maryland was very tough. New England when I was galloping
there, I did it for 2 years and everybody knew me there and every body liked
me and knew I had the hands and could handles horses and I did very well up
there. Then I got engaged to Stewart Elliott (male jockey think Smarty Jones-chris)
and a jockey got hurt down in Maryland and his agent wanted Stewart to come
to Maryland to ride and I had my "bug" so I said "let's give
it a try" and barely rode and wasted 6 months of my "bug" there
and I think I only won like 4 races there. Then I went to Phila Park and did
good in between all my injuries.
FOTH: What were some of the injuries that you had?
TA: The 1st one was 3 months after I started riding the
horse I was riding went down and clipped heels with another horse and I messed
up my knee pretty good. My 1st bad accident was when my horse broke down and
snapped my wrist and also had another one where I had a terrible concussion
and thought I was blind. I was on these 2 shows, "You Gotta See This"
and 'Sports Disasters". Did you ever see those?
FOTH: No I haven't.
TA: Those were my 2 good accidents. I was on a horse and
fell and a horse stepped on my head and crushed my helmet and broke my back
and neck and then I went back to riding 2 years later, but just this one horse
that I knew and galloped. Then we ended up clipping heels during the running
of a race and she fell and landed on me and I was lucky cause it was a long
race and the great crew came over and helped her off of me and then she stood
up and I was hung up in the irons so that was a really good thing they were
there so she didn't run off or anything. I broke my collarbone, ribs and my
foot was messed up. Then I thought that's about it. (we both laugh)
FOTH: So that pretty much led to you retiring, you getting all these injuries.
TA: Yeah I was so lucky to be walking after I broke my
back and everybody couldn't believe I went galloping after that. I was like
I got it in me I got to keep going.
FOTH: So what tracks did you ride at during your racing career?
TA: Phila Park, Rockingham Park, Suffolk Downs, Pimlicio,
Delaware Park, Atlantic City, Garden State Park, The Meadowlands.
FOTH: Do you still follow the sport at all?
TA: You know I hardly do at all, but now my husband is
a trainer and I worked with him until a few days before I had my baby and he
is 2 now, so it has been a little over 2 years that I haven't worked at the
track, so I don't follow it too much.
FOTH: Now if some young girl came up to you and said she wanted to become a
jockey what advice would you give her?
TA: Well I would want to know her work ethics and she
would need to be a really hard worker and dedicated and you can't let things
get you down. In this business you are up early and getting to bed late and
it is pretty much your life and if you really want to do it, you can do it.
You want to have that connection with the horse too.
FOTH: Did you have a special horse that you rode or a track that you rode at
or a day that sticks out in your mind like say you won 3 races on a card, etc?
TA: I liked Rockingham Park and the area. I liked riding
at Phila Park too. I did not like Suffolk Downs.
FOTH: Turf course or dirt or it didn't matter?
TA: It didn't matter.
FOTH: Now how did you prepare for a race?
TA: You take into account everything. You look at the
form cause you want to check out your competition. Always listen to your trainer
no matter what, he is the boss.
FOTH: Do you think another female will win one of those Triple Crown Races?
TA: It sure is possible given the chance. You need to
have the horse too.
FOTH: Do you think there ever will be a time when the men and the woman will
play at a 50% to 50% even level playing field?
TA: That is hard to say, I don't know, I'm not sure about
that.
FOTH: When you were riding do you think you were a good jockey?
TA: I thought I was very good when I wasn't hurt. (laughs)
FOTH: Did people try and discourage you from riding when you started getting
some of these injuries?
TA: Yeah after I broke my back. They were saying "what
the hell are you doing on a horse?" and then went on went back riding,
just one horse, I rode her a few times and the 2nd time I rode her that one
year and when I got hurt that time I said I'm done riding.
FOTH: Now with you being an ex-jockey can you tell say your husband if a jockey
gave a horse a bad ride?
TA: Yeah there is a lot of things I can point out and
some of the owners really appreciated that and when they would watch a replay
they would say I know what you mean.
FOTH: Did you ever win 3 races on a card or win a stakes race?
TA: There was a couple times I won 3 races on a card and
that was always nice. I went to Ohio and I just lost the bug and rode in a $
100,000 race there.
FOTH: Was that at River Downs or Beulah?
TA: That was at River Downs. I finished 3rd and she ran
really good.
FOTH: Do you think racetracks need slot machines or do you think they should
work on promoting the sport better?
TA: Well it would be nice if they promoted the sport better, but I don't think
that is ever gonna happen. Slot machines help the horseman get better purse
money and the cheaper tracks won't get slots, but we still need cheaper tracks.
FOTH: Do people ever recognize you from your riding days when you were helping
your husband out?
TA: Some of them do. I lot of them saw me on the TV show
as well. (laughs)
FOTH: Tracie I am out of questions anything you want to say to wrap this up.
Thanks for being part of the website and allowing us to interview you for it.
TA: This was great. I saw your website a while ago and
I was like this is really nice maybe one day I'll be on it.
FOTH: Well your going to be now.
TA: Chris thanks again and I'll email you over some pictures
to use for the interview.
FOTH: Great I'll look for them
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